Wednesday, June 18, 2014

六親的看法 - Decoding Familial Relations

第二節 六親的看法
Section 2 - Decoding Familial Relations
由十星的變化判斷六親
Using Ten Gods and its changes to decode relations
六親所代表的十星與日幹甚親密,則此六親與自己緣份良好或感情密切。
Family members as represented by the 10 gods has intimate relationship with the DM, this represents whether the affinity is good or whether it is mutual good feeling. 
某六親所代表的十星與日幹甚疏遠,甚至刑、沖、克日柱,則此六親與自己感情不密或緣份不好。
If certain family member as represented by the 10 god and self are alienated, punished, clash, control DM, this means that the particular family member and self do not have good relations or the affinity is low. 
某六親所代表的十星強度甚大,則此六親影響的強度甚大。
If certain family member as represented by the 10 god is considerably strong, this means that the particular family member has substantial influence over DM.  
某六親所代表的十星強度甚小,則此六親影響自己的強度甚小。
If certain family member as represented by the 10 god is considerably weak, this means that the particular family member has insignificant influence over DM. 
代表的十星被破壞,無救助,則此六親與自己緣份甚薄,甚至二人相克。
If the 10 god has destruct (liu po), no rescue/remedy, this means the affinity with the family member and self is weak, even possible that both will clash each other.
某六親所代表的十星是喜用神,則此六親常能幫助自己。
If it is useful god, then the family member can often assist DM. 
某六親所代表的十星是忌神,則此六親對自己不利。
If it is annoying god, then the family member is not unfavorable to self. 
某六親所代表的十星臨天乙貴人或天月德,則此六親容易有富貴或榮耀。
If the 10 god is also Tian Yi or Tian Yue Guiren, this means the family member can easily bring wealth and fame.  
某六親所代表的十星臨桃花,則此六親容易風姿迷人,易有桃花事件。
If the 10 god is also Tao Hua (peach blossom), this means the family member is charming and attractive, can easily attract PB issues. 
某六親所代表的十星臨驛馬,則此六親常有遠遊之事。
If the 10 god is also Yi Ma (traveling horse), this means the family member is often away. 
日幹代表的十星,與其所代表的六親同上一般判斷。
由宮位的好壞判斷六親:
Using palace to determine familial relations: 
若父母宮、兄弟宮為喜用,則本人三十歲前因父母、兄弟的昌盛得到助力。只年柱為喜用,則十五歲前得助力,只月柱為喜用,則十喜用,則十五至三十歲間行助力。年月為忌則相反。
If the parents palace, sibling palace are useful, this means the person gets help from the parents and siblings before 30 years old.  If only the year pillar is useful, this means the person is helped before 15 years old, if only month pillar is useful, this means the person gets help between the ages of 15 to 30.  If year and month are annoying gods, then reverse is true.
 
妻宮為喜用,則得富有或美貌之妻,若為忌,則妻子條件比自己差。
If spouse palace is useful, this means the wife has wealth capacity or is beautiful, if it is annoying god, then this means the wife's qualification is less than self.  
時柱若為喜用,則子兒往後相當發達。
If the hour pillar is useful, then this means the children will be wealthy. 
那么,同樣都代表某六親的十神與宮位的含義有何不同?其實代表六親的十神是否為喜用,只代表此六親是否能夠助我,六親 的宮位,則代表此六親的條件品質的好壞(財富、地位、名聲等)。當然,六親的條件不錯,再與自己的關係好,當然就能幫助自己,也因此六親的宮位常比所代表 的十星重要。
So, what's the difference between the familial representation by 10 god vs palace?  In fact, whether or not the familial relation as represented by 10 god, only means if they can assist DM, the familial palace, represents whether that family member has good qualifications or not (wealth, status, fame, etc).  Of course, when family member has good qualification, and relationship with self is good, then of course they can help DM, this is also the reason that the palace is more important than the 10 god representation of the family member.  
 
現在我們綜合宮位,星理論來判斷六親:Summary,...

代表某六親的十星若不在八字中,則可以此六親的宮位,來判斷此六親的條件,及對自己是否相助。
If certain family member as represented by 10 god is not found in natal, then use that family member's palace, to determine the family member's qualifications, and whether or not s/he is helpful to self. 
 
代表某六親的十星若為喜用,但其宮位卻為忌,則只能說,此六親自身條件不好,但能幫助自己。
If certain family member as represented by 10 god is useful god, but the palace is inauspicious, then this means, the family member's qualification is not good, however is still helpful to self.  
代表六親的十星若為忌,但其宮位卻為喜用,則只能說,此六親條件、品質好,但卻不能幫助自己。
If certain family member as represented by 10 god is annoying god, but the palace is auspicious, then this means, this family member has good qualifications, but unable to assist self.  
宮位與日柱的親密性,也足以論六親與自己的緣份,關係,此段論法,於前論十星相同。
 The palace and Day pillars interaction, can also be used to determine affinity, relationship, this way of decoding, is the same as previously discussed using 10 god.

Example: 
舉例如下:
(男)辛卯 庚子 甲戌 丁卯
           Xin Mao   Geng Zi    Jia Xu    Ding Mao  (Kitty notes: person born in 1800's)
父親:日幹、日支皆偏財,與父親感情親密,可為喜用神,可得父親助力。
Father: DM, Day EB are Indirect Wealth, relations with the father is close, it is useful god, father can help self. 
母親:月支子水與日幹關係不大,且為忌神,故而母親與自己關係不親密,幫助甚小。
Mother: Month EB is Zi water and it is not close with DM, it is also annoying god, thus relationship with mother is not close and there is little assistance from the mom. 
父母的富貴條件:年支、月支皆為忌神,年幹、月幹也為閑神,故而父母為中下階層。
Parents wealth and status: Year EB and Month EB are annoying gods, Year Stem and Month Stems are idle gods, thus parents are consider lower middle class. 
兄弟:時支劫財星卯為忌神,帶桃花合日柱,可論兄弟與自己感情甚好,但兄弟風流,對自己沒有助力,且兄有早夭之象(事實有一北民國六十八年亡)。
Siblings: Hour EB is RW Mao and it is annoying god, it also peach blossom, thus sibling and self have good relationship, but sibling is licentious, unable to assist self, and signs indicate sibling will die young (in fact, there is one who passed away in 1968). 
妻子:戌臨日支,且日支、偏財皆為喜用,然而卯戌合,卯帶桃花為桃花劫,且為忌神,故可斷:妻子與自己關係親密,妻子條件好,對自己有助力,但婚前婚後,易有感情三角關係,且本人易因此“橫刀奪愛”(事實亦然)。
Wife:  Xu in Day EB, and it is useful god, but Mao and Xu combines, Mao is PB and it is a bad PB, as well as annoying god, thus conclude: Wife and self have good relationship, wife has good qualifications, can assist self, but after marriage, there is a possibility of love triangle, in fact the DM was involve in such love matter.  
子女:可由官殺與日幹的親疏,時柱的喜用來定子女與自己的關係,有可能部分親,部分疏。
Children:  Can use Guan/Sha, Hour pillar to determine the relationship between DM and children, some are close, and some are not.  


(男)戊辰 已未 甲寅 甲子

本造甲已合,但戊土偏財又透天,可論與妻感情時離時合。
This chart shows Jia Ji combination, but Wu earth indirect wealth penetrates to stem, can deduce relationship with wife is hot and cold. 
時支子水正印臨空亡,且甲木坐其上,四十五歲後與兄弟、母親感情惡化。
Hour EB Zi water Resource is Kong Wang, plus Jia wood sits on top, this person will have bad relationship with siblings and mother after 45 years old.  

(男)丁亥 庚戌 已巳 辛未

此為蔣介石八字。 This is Chiang Kai-Shek chart (Kitty notes:  Some sites use Wei hour and some use Wu hour, reader discretion advised)  

局中無偏財,可以年支亥水正財為父、為妻,有克,早離。
Chart has no Indirect wealth, can use Year EB Hai water as father, wife, and have clash, go away early (kitty notes: usually means death)  
丙火正印在日支,氣勢強,與母親感情厚,並深得母親之影響。
Bing fire Direct resource at Day EB, strong qi, relationship with mother is strong, and he is also deeply influenced by the mother. 
時幹辛為喜用神,有品質甚好之子。
Hour stem Xin is useful god, the quality of his children is good. 

(男)已酉 已巳 丁卯 丙午
此為蔣經國八字。This is Chiang Ching Kuo's bazi, son of Chiang Kai-Shek.

年支酉中偏財辛金為喜用,並臨天乙,但與日柱相沖,可論與父親緣份不大,但父親不富亦貴,多得父親之助力。
Year EB You have indirect wealth which is useful, in addition there's Tian Yi Guiren, however, there is a clash with Day Pillar, thus can determine the affinity with father is low, but father can be noble even if he is not rich, most likely this chart can get assistance from father.  


(Kitty notes:  There are several birthdays circulating on the internet.  Wikipedia shows his birthday to be April 27, 1910... Reader discretion is advised again). 


 
(男)乙未 辛巳 庚寅 甲申

月幹辛坐巳,日幹庚坐寅,表申沖寅,但本造日弱喜金,故可論得兄弟助力,但與兄弟間感情不睦或兄弟早夭。
Month stem Xin sits on Si, Day stem Geng sits on Yin, represents Shen will clash Yin, but because DM is weak and favors metal, thus can determine the person will get assistance from siblings, but the relationship between siblings is poor or that the sibling may die young. 

本造二偏財被夭克地沖,但因有一偏財在日支,故而與父緣份小破。
This chart shows two indirect wealth getting clash by metal, but because there is one indirect wealth at Day branch, thus affinity with father is only slightly affected. 

(女)庚寅 甲申 庚子 壬午

全局無正偏印,又偏財皆被沖克,從小就被送人當養女,與生父母少有聯絡。
午官與日支沖,且寅申沖,夫宮衝動,整日與丈夫罵不休,感情甚劣。
Chart does not have Direct or Indirect Resource, and Indirect wealth is clashed, she was adopted when young, and had little contact with the biological parents.

我們再為大家分析一下宮位與十神的區別:Let's summarize the difference between palace and 10 gods.  

宮位所代表的是一種位置,一種角色,十神則是由日幹和其他干支的生克關係所推演出來的一種含義。以男子為例,坐支所代 表的是妻子的位置,如果這個男人同時和兩個女人有著關係,其坐支受沖克,由於日支代表的是一種位置和角色,故坐支受沖克時,僅代表占居了日支這個位置的女 人有災,即妻子有災或本人與妻子關係惡化,情人是不會有災的,也不會和本人關係惡化。若為財受劫奪,即自己所控制、支配、享用的人、事、物有災,由於財的 含義包含了妻子和情人,故此時是妻子和情人都有災。
(Kitty notes:  I'll use my own words for this paragraph). 
What the author is saying is, the palace represents the position/role of the respective family member.  The character/behavior of the 10 gods is derived from the DM and interactions with the rest of the stems and ebs in chart.  Example:  Male chart, Day EB represents the position/role of the wife, if the male relations with two women, it is the spouse inside the palace getting clashed/harmed, thus spouse is hurt or the male and his spouse have poor relationship, and the lover is not affected (the lover is not inside the spouse palace), the male and lover will not have a deteriorating relationship.  However, if it is the wealth star (10 god) getting robbed, thus this represents ALL that is controlled by self, dominated by self, enjoyed by self, situations, and things will be harmed, because wealth star represents both wife and lover, thus this time both wife and love will be harmed. 


當日支為羊刃時,由於妻子的含義為“財”,羊刃劫財,故日支為羊刃所顯示的像是:由於劫財占居了日支這個位置,故女人 (財)很難進入日支這個位置成為自己的妻子、勉強進入了也會被劫。現實意義就是晚婚和克妻。但日支為羊刃並不影響談戀愛及與女孩子接觸,或此人柱中財多則 表示談戀愛次數很多,一旦論及婚嫁就不行了。同理,若日支為財,為食傷,則表示求婚較易成功。
When the Day branch is Yang Ren, because wife is represented as wealth, Yang Ren can rob wealth, thus when the Day Branch is Yang Ren will represent: the wife is not able to enter the spouse palace, thus female (wealth) it is hard for the male to have a wife, even if the male managed to marry, the wife can be stolen.  In reality it usually means late marriage or inauspicious to wife.  However, Day Branch with Yang Ren does not denote poor dating or poor association with women, or this person may have multiple wealth stars then this means he will have many romances, but once married this is when Yang Ren will cause its problems.  Also, if Day Branch is also Wealth star, or EG/HO, then the person's marriage proposal will be accepted readily. 
 
又如柱中殺旺身弱有比劫,則比較容易受欺負及奸人陷害,而且比劫受克由於比劫在向弱時含義為自己的親密朋友和幫助自己的人,所以此時連朋友也一起受到陷害。若為月柱受到沖克,則僅僅表示占居了月柱這個位置的人遭災,即自己的父母或兄弟有災。
Another example, if 7K is prosperous, self is weak with BJ/RW, then this person will be bullied, because BJ/RW is considered as helfpul friend, thus the friend is also getting bullied.  If Month Pillar is clashed, then everything represented by the month pillar will be affected; parents, or siblings.
又如父母為正印,其含義為奉獻和給與,但若身旺不須正印生身時,母親含義和慧印的含義就相差較大了,此時正印在很大程度上已不能代表母親,故歲運正印受克母親不一定有災。此時論母親就主要以宮位來論吉凶福禍。

Another example, parents as represented by Direct Resource, the meaning is to give, to dedicate, but if the self is strong and do not need DR to empower, then the mother represented greatly differs, this time DR is usually not represented as mother, so during annual pillar when DR is clashed, the mother may not be affected.  This time, just use the palace to determine the mother.  

看了本資料後,相信大家已經能區分宮位和十神了。
Hopefully, this helps everyone to decode the difference between palace and 10 gods.  
 
(Kitty notes:  This is explained very well.  Now, time to research and practice.)  
 

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